This excerpt was taken from an interview in 1994 and
later was published in Jonathan Fleming's book "What Kind Of
House Party Is This?" It is the
summarizing feature in the book as related by the originator and founder of what
we know as "House Music"
Jesse Saunders
- Still fifty yards apart, a smile came across his face, and we knew
then who each other was.
At talking distance: 'I thought you were
joking when you told me onthe phone'. He was looking at my ankle, the one I had broken on
mysecond day in Chicago. 'If I had known, I would have brought my wife's car, It's bigger
than my Pontiac sports. Oh well, it's good to meet you Jonathan. I've been waiting for
this day to happen'. 'Me too', I replied. Don't worry about the car I'm young and I'm
relatively healthy'.
We got into the car and we were off, cutting through the breeze,watching the blue sky,
listening to old Disco, enjoying the day, and lapping up the sunshine. This was it. Yes
boy. California dreamin'beautiful women, fancy cars, gorgeous houses and earthquake
damage.They'd recently hit 6.8 on the Richter scale, and I was witnessing some of the
worst hit areas on our way to his home. The interview started routinely. Jesse told me he
was born on the south side of Chicago on the 10th ,March 1962. He went to Kenwood High
School and then the University or Southern Calirornia. There, he tried a varietyof
subjects--first, oceanography because he did a lot of scubadiving, then
communications-before he finally discovered there was aRecording Arts course where he
could study sound engineering.
- He told me how he got into DJ'ing when he
was still at high school.
"I guess it was the summer after my freshman
year (first year). I was about fifteen at the time, we used to have this place called Mendell
High School where everyone went every Saturday night to listen to Kirk Townsend
who was the DJ there. Well, my step brother Wayne Williams used to go up and
pester him about DJ'ing, because he had gotten a little taste of it by doing house
basement parties and things like that with a guy by the name of Ewert Abner, who was my
sister's boyfriend at the time. Now Mendell held about twenty five hundred people every
Saturday; and Wayne wanted to get up on the big stage and try to do his DJ thing, but Kirk
wouldn't let him. Then we found out Kirk happened to be a distant relative of ours, so
Wayne convinced Kirk's mother,our aunt, to tell Kirk to let him get up there and DJ, and
from that I guess he made his debut, because people started seeing Wayne as a DJ. After
that debut, Wayne got a call from a group by the name of The Doctors to DJ at one
of their parties at the Burning Spear, and he just calledme up and said, 'Hey
maan, get an your records together, we're DJ'ing at a party'. Now, ever since I was seven
or eight years old I collected records. I always kinda, like, liked to entertain everybody
with the best records, and be the one whenever we went on trips that made all the tapes,
so I guess from then I was becoming a DJ. Anyway, I had never DJed at a party in my life
before and I'm sitting there thinking like 'DJ at a party? In front of people?'. You know,
then I was kinda shy, but that first time we DJ'ed, we turned out to be a pretty big hit.
At that time, even before remixes were done, I used to make tapes that were remixes or
songs. I extended the album version of 'One Nation Under A Groove' long before the
12" extended version had come out, and did that on a little cassette deck that I used
to do all my pause button mixes and splices on, but when I played it at that party,
people went crazy and were wondering what it was. From there, we started DJing at
everyone's party all over the place, places like The Burning Spear on the south side, then
a lot of the high schools like St. Albes, my high school Kenwood, and we did a lot or
homecomings at Whitney Young High School. In the next couple of years, we started doing
places like the Blue Gargoyle, The Loft which was really the first straight place,
like a straight Warehouse-The Tree Of Life,. which was far south side, then we did Sauer's,
which was a hot spot, First Impressions, which was another hot spot, and the Mansion
In Hyde Park. Then Craig Thompson, who had the finance, who was always on the
cutting edge of the club scene, myself, and I guess you could say Farley
("Jackmaster" Funk) to a certain degree, although he was really
hired to be a DJ more so than he was to be apart of the entity of running this place,
opened a place called The Playground, that was a big success, and that went on to
become the Candy Store. Then the clubs just went on and on, and there were a lotor places
that led up to the whole origin of this thing, but The Loft is were it all started.
- During my interviews I had learned that Ron
Hardy had been in town DJ'ing it a place called "Den One"-again, a
place that this Craig Thompson used to run some time before Frankie Knuckles had
got to the Warehouse. I asked Jesse why he hadn't mentioned it in his list of
important events.
"Well Den One was on the north side and that was like a
gay club. The north side is where all the gay clubs were, including the Warehouse,
although it was nearer to downtown. But the people I'm talking about were the straight
crowd from the south side. After wehad been DJ'ing for maybe a year or so, Craig Thompson
had thrown some parties down at the Warehouse where Frankie Knuckles played, and Wayne had
gone to them. Frankie used to play a kind of music that was Disco from labels such as Prelude,
West End and Salsoul, but itwasn't your traditional Disco like Donna Summer
or that kinda thing,it was really R&B. For instance, Heatwave was a classic example,
it was the R&B sound of Heatwave, but with that driving beat. Wayne had never heard
anything like it before, and he came back and said, 'You gotta go to this place and check
this stuff out'. Now, Wayne is two years older than me. I was sixteen at the time and you
had to be eighteen to get in the club, but I got in because the party was puton by Bob
Peters, a member of The Doctors group, and I was like,'Wow'-I had never heard music like
that before. To get those records, Wayne used to go to a record shop on the north side
called 'Sounds Good', because there wasn't but maybe one or two stores in the
entire city where you could go to get this stuff, so Sounds Good was like the premier spot
to go. At the time, this was say the fall of '77, it was so funny because they only had
like a little section with this music, but everyone would be in it trying to find all this
stuff. Well, Wayne would come back with it and play it, but people at the time were into
the commercial stuff like Cameo, Heatwave, James Brown, and it was hard trying to get them
to listen to it even though it was a good music-you know how hard it is when you're trying
to introduce something new to the people and they're not used to it,they're like,
"Whoa, what's this?' Well, we cleared the dance floor for a while, but we were like,
'No, we know that this is gonna be thesound and we're gonna be the ones to break it', so
we just stayed with it and stayed with it and got a couple of people like Arthur Bailey,
who was like the comedian that comes on to warm up the show before the main act comes on,
he would be the guy to get everyone going. He would take his shirt off when the music came
on and he'd just Jump around and shout, 'yeah heh', but when everybody saw how good a time
he was having, they were like, 'Hey, this is kinda cool,we can be free', you know, kinda
like how Rock 'n' Roll set everyone free, it was the same kinda vibe, because the music
just, like, entranced you and took you to a diferent level once you were open enough to
let it in. A few people started catching on, then more and more, until it became like a
fad, like the in thing to be with this crowd and listen to this music. All of a sudden,
you saw people coming from all the private schools around the city, because the people
that were supporting these parties, who were really instrumental in grasping that whole
Disco sound, they were more ofthe upper middle class--sons and daughters of doctors and
lawyers,who had their own little cliques and things-these were the type of people that
went to Mendell and they were called the Guedies. So when the word got out, it started off
a whole new clique, and people would open their mansion homes and we'd go in and DJ that
stuff, and it was great. We even had parties right next door to Muhammad Ali's place. So
we grew from Mendell where we started, into the Burning Spear with, like, three hundred
people, and that was only because of the Doctors and their following, but by the time we
established ourselves as DJ's in '78 and started doing our own parties like McClendons
in this little room at an apartment complex called South Commons, we were only
playing for seventy five people. Those people were the ones that were into the music at
the time and it was jammin-we knew those people were gonna be there from the time that we
opened to the time that we closed, and that they were gonna have a great time.
'Then maybe a year later in '79, we went to a bigger room in South Commons, a rooms
that would hold say two hundred people. In that same year, we went to the Loft with maybe
two hundred, two fifty, but it was a different location. First Impressions was the same
thing. Then by the end of 1980, Sauer's was the place. By this time we were up to seven or
eight hundred people. Then I went off to study in California. and by the time I got back
in June '81, it was the Mansion with six or seven hundred people, Sauer's still the same
thing, but this time it was like if you didn't get there before ten o'clock there'd be
lines around the corner and you didn't get in. Eventually we moved to The P1ayground which
held fifteen hundred to two thousand people, and from that point on I only played for,
like, thousands of people at a time. So that is actually how the sound and the music was
embraced. Then what would happen is our parties would have to end by like two o'clock, and
after our party everyone would go to the Warehouse-by this time everyone was just about
old enough to get in. Even if you were younger, you could still pretty much get in: most
of those people had a fake ID or they went with someone who knew the doormen, the people
that owned the place or whatever. And if they couldn't get in, they'd just hang outside
because the music blasted so loud you could litereily have a party outside."
Continued..... Don't
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(It ain't over)
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