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    Question Rane MP 2016a vs UREI MIXER – MODEL 1620

    I am sure it has been talked about but for discussion sake (and the fact I dont want to bring back an old thread).

    What do you like/dislike about Urei and/or Rane

    This has been talked about by DJ's for years and each has something different to add.

    Some really like Rane over Urei and vise versa.

    What do you think ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pang View Post
    Les, the search function is your friend. . .
    yes I know..lol
    I am sure it has been talked about but for discussion sake (and the fact I dont want to bring back an old thread).
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    I've had the same Urei since 1984. Still working fine

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    Big thanks though for finding the info for me. I appreciate it and found a lot of useful stuff

    Yep i like the 3rd one and that fourth thread as well....however it was discussed on many occasions and each new thread included different people, not the same crew from 2003-2004 not that there is anything wrong with that big respect to the old DHP heads. My question is simply addressed to new and old DHP members who may not have answered or just bought. It is for the sake of opinion.

    JMJ's was most current back in 12/08, so it does keep popping up.

    and this right here................................MAN!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I am willing to bet that this sounds better than any other rotary on the market
    I'd hit it!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by S&S View Post
    I've had the same Urei since 1984. Still working fine
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    One of the best boards I have played on...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie 3:26 View Post
    One of the best boards I have played on...

    Nice!!!!!

    DJR 400

    FIRST PORTABLE ROTARY MIXER
    conceived by Jerôme Barbé & Dj Deep

    http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/djr400.htm

    DJR400 is a very new concept of "travel" mixer , the idea is to be able to carry it with you anywhere , very easy to plug with it’s back connections , it includes all the specifications of the DJR100D in a 4 lines portable mixer ! You don’t have to « rack » it or do a long soundcheck you can just plug it in a system and play , controling the room’s system with the very powerfull integrated cross over.


    Technical specifications :

    Dimensions: 280mm x 210mm x 70mm
    - bandwidth - 1db : 10 - 25 000 Hz

    - switchable inputs 1 & 3: phono/line

    - input 2 : phono

    - input 4 : line

    - integrated crossover isolator

    (10 - 300 Hz / 300 - 3000 Hz / 3000 - 25000 HZ)

    - master and booth : RCA and XLR balanced

    - output level (XLR) up to +22 dBm
    - effect loop on master and booth output

    - PFL : pushbutton mixable monitor to phones

    - external power suply
    -ALPS potentiometer

    - total weight : 2,8 Kg



    option : send effect on each channel (view wood model)


    That last part always does it for me.

    I love the send effects on each channel feature.

    Thank you Sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneMasterMixer View Post
    Nice!!!!!

    DJR 400

    FIRST PORTABLE ROTARY MIXER
    conceived by Jerôme Barbé & Dj Deep

    http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/djr400.htm

    DJR400 is a very new concept of "travel" mixer , the idea is to be able to carry it with you anywhere , very easy to plug with it’s back connections , it includes all the specifications of the DJR100D in a 4 lines portable mixer ! You don’t have to « rack » it or do a long soundcheck you can just plug it in a system and play , controling the room’s system with the very powerfull integrated cross over.


    Technical specifications :

    Dimensions: 280mm x 210mm x 70mm
    - bandwidth - 1db : 10 - 25 000 Hz

    - switchable inputs 1 & 3: phono/line

    - input 2 : phono

    - input 4 : line

    - integrated crossover isolator

    (10 - 300 Hz / 300 - 3000 Hz / 3000 - 25000 HZ)

    - master and booth : RCA and XLR balanced

    - output level (XLR) up to +22 dBm
    - effect loop on master and booth output

    - PFL : pushbutton mixable monitor to phones

    - external power suply
    -ALPS potentiometer

    - total weight : 2,8 Kg



    option : send effect on each channel (view wood model)


    That last part always does it for me.

    I love the send effects on each channel feature.

    Thank you Sir!
    yes but i'd go with their bigger model...

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    This one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Conrad View Post
    yes but i'd go with their bigger model...
    http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/djr100D.htm

    Technical specifications :

    -3 unit rack
    -external power suply
    -3 phono in
    -3 line in (including one switchable mic in)
    -effect insert on master and booth output
    -general eq : bass + high (baxandall)
    -Master out (XLR + RCA) ( balanced and unbalanced)
    -Booth out (XLR + RCA) (balanced and unbalanced)
    -Headphones out PFL + Master (level on vumeter)
    -Bandwith : 20 hz - 30 Khz
    -ALPS potentiometer
    DJR100D
    Inspired by the early american " dj " mixers the DJr100 console was conceived by Jérôme Barbé and Dj Deep.
    The main focus when creating this mixer was to re-create the warm and unique sound of the American "dj " mixers of the 80's. After studying those legendary mixers, using the same or equivalent components and with the advice of top american dj's, Jérôme Barbé and Dj Deep decided to create their own version of a dj mixer with rotary faders. ALPS faders used on this mixer provide a smooth and warm feeling when using the DJR 100 .
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    I wonder what the hold up is for the new ZACKS



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    yes. or any variation of it.

    look, this topic has been discussed ten thousand times on this board and others. so have all the mixers mentioned. your best bet is to really use the search function and go read something like the tech section on the wave music board where loads of people have all of these mixers.

    i have a urei 1620le, the newer soundcraft version that was out a couple of years ago. i also like playing on the rane 2016a and i like the e&s mixers. it all depends on what you want to do and what sound you are going for. there is no one definitive answer to yor question. some guys love urei, some bozak, some rane. some change their mind after a few years. they are all good mixers that will blow away any other cheapo mixer or the popular pioneeer mixers in terms of sound quality.

    my only problem with the e&s 'travel mixer' is it is exactly that. too small, not enough channels. if i need a 'travel mixer' i would pick one up. too many things squeezed into one box. its easier to work with more channels and have options as to what isolator you want hooked up to the mixer and what not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUBFLY View Post
    I wonder what the hold up is for the new ZACKS



    keep in mind that this has nothing to do with the original Bozak. they just bought the rights to the name. the original Bozak company is long gone. same guy i believe that resurrected the Urei a couple of years ago is behind this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUBFLY View Post
    I wonder what the hold up is for the new ZACKS



    EQ6




    The EQ-6 with its individual Isolator EQ control over the six inputs and coupled with this the routing of the loop and effects across all inputs perfectly complements the Bozak AR-6 mixer. The flexibility of the EQ-6 allows it to be used as a standalone EQ section should you require it.
    Channels 1~4 are selectable between Phono or Line input while channels 5~6 are selectable between Line or Microphone input. Both the Inputs and the outputs of each channel are on RCA connectors and the output is at line level.
    The Loop control allows the DJ to add their choice of effects to any of the six input channels or add effects to the master loop of the mixer, a mix control is included to allow the DJ to adjust the mix between the Dry (without effect) signal and the Wet (with effect) signal.
    When connected to the master output of the mixer, the stereo analogue VU meters will display the main output of the mixer and feature LED peak indicators.

    Discrete analogue design topology.
    Massive headroom and un-rivalled gain structure.
    Six input channels.
    3-Band Isolator EQ on each channel.
    Phono and Line inputs.
    Two balanced microphone inputs.
    Line outputs on each channel.
    Loop in and outputs.
    FX in and outputs.
    Flexible FX routing to each input or master.
    FX wet and dry mix.
    Stereo analogue VU metering with Peak LEDs.
    2-Band Stereo Booth EQ.
    Quality Gold RCA and Neutrik XLR connectors.
    Selectable mains input for worldwide usage.
    Anodic printed front panel (print wont rub off).
    Lightweight chassis.
    Rack Ear bracing.







    AR6


    The Bozak AR-6 is a classic rotary mixer with its heritage taken from the pioneering mixers of the 70’s. Updated to give the flexibility to today’s DJ requirements, the AR-6 has been designed first and foremost for unsurpassed sound and build quality.
    The AR-6 feature set, has been designed in conjunction with some of the true legendary DJ’s who have served their apprenticeship on the original rotary mixers and who are now regarded as the true masters of their craft. The mixer offers the most flexible routing, six direct phono, line or mic inputs and five auxiliary line inputs on a user selectable matrix with a balance control for each input, the AR-6 has more than enough input options.
    The flexible headphone section gives the DJ flexible control over the cue and mix. The clear warm and loud headphone output with a mix control that allows the DJ to pan between the Cue or Program output or a mix anywhere between. The Headphone jack is backlit to allow you to find the socket in the dark DJ booth.
    Dedicated Master and Booth gain controls gives you total control over the mix with flexible stereo balanced or unbalanced options as well as post fade tape output and dedicated mono master output.
    The Loop control allows the DJ to add their choice of effects or processing to the master output and the Loop/Direct switch allows the connected processor to be switched in or out at the DJ’s discretion. Used in conjunction with the EQ-6 the loop feature will take your effect control to another level.
    3-band stereo EQ gives perfect overall tonal control of the mix. With its cross-over points having been carefully selected to yield a most natural sound and to emphasise the artistry in the musical production, the Bozak’s frequency dividing technology provides superior dynamic response making the control smooth and the individual tone control allows the user to EQ beats, vocals and the high hats.

    Discrete analogue design topology.
    Massive headroom and un-rivalled gain structure.
    Six direct input channels.
    Plug in Mic and Phono cards on all channels.
    All channels can be selected for line level.
    Five line auxiliary inputs.
    Auxiliary matrix.
    Balanced microphone inputs.
    Flexible headphone functionality.
    Headphone Cue-Program mix control.
    Dedicated Booth and Master controls.
    Booth summing.
    Post Tape output.
    Post insert on each channels.
    Stereo balanced, un-balanced and mono outputs.
    Loop input switch.
    3-Band Stereo EQ.
    Quality Gold RCA and Neutrik XLR connectors.
    Selectable mains input for worldwide usage.
    Anodic printed front panel. (print will not rub off)
    Lightweight chassis.
    Rack Ear bracing.

    Another component of quality!!!!!!!

    Bozak came first

    Which brings up another good point.

    Can a new company make the same quality as an old standard?

    In your opinion of course?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Conrad View Post
    yes. or any variation of it.

    look, this topic has been discussed ten thousand times on this board and others. so have all the mixers mentioned. your best bet is to really use the search function and go read something like the tech section on the wave music board where loads of people have all of these mixers.

    i have a urei 1620le, the newer soundcraft version that was out a couple of years ago. i also like playing on the rane 2016a and i like the e&s mixers. it all depends on what you want to do and what sound you are going for. there is no one definitive answer to yor question. some guys love urei, some bozak, some rane. some change their mind after a few years. they are all good mixers that will blow away any other cheapo mixer or the popular pioneeer mixers in terms of sound quality.

    my only problem with the e&s 'travel mixer' is it is exactly that. too small, not enough channels. if i need a 'travel mixer' i would pick one up. too many things squeezed into one box. its easier to work with more channels and have options as to what isolator you want hooked up to the mixer and what not.
    Thanks Man I have been doing that for sometime now always researching even if window shopping.

    Point well taken

    This thread now holds the older threads that have great info as well as new info, so I guess the saga continues. Now one can actually hit this thread and pick up many facts so hope it helps others in their search.

    Appreciate your knowledge and input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Conrad View Post

    You seem a lil on edge my friend.


    Its ok to walk away from the thread and let others answer if they choose..I wont mind or have any ill feelings..

    Ohh and have a nice day too
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneMasterMixer View Post
    Thanks Man I have been doing that for sometime now always researching even if window shopping.

    Point well taken

    This thread now holds the older threads that have great info as well as new info, so I guess the saga continues. Now one can actually hit this thread and pick up many facts so hope it helps others in their search.

    Appreciate your knowledge and input.
    the new bozak...

    -like i said, they bought the name, just like the guy bought the old urei name and had soundcraft recreate them. some people loved the 'new' urei, i have one. some hated it. some wouldn't touch it based on the fact it was made in china.

    -nobody even has one yet that i know of. mixed reviews on the 'bozak isolator'.

    -you got kevin hedge appearing pushing the new bozak then appearing in ads pushing a behringer mixer that is widely known to be a piece of crap...

    -your best bet is to actually play on these mixers. you play on stuff on a variety of sound systems enough times you know what to expect and what delivers. there is no blanket answer or best mixer. these are all good like i said, way better than the cheap crap.

    -its like cars. you have ferrari guys and you have porsche guys. both are good cars with a long racing heritage. both are fast sports cars but both are different driving and mechanical experiences. but neither are toyota corollas, get what i'm saying? you see a lot of corollas on the road (i own one, great car), but it is not a high performance vehicle that even compares to a porsche or ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneMasterMixer View Post
    You seem a lil on edge my friend.


    Its ok to walk away from the thread and let others answer if they choose..I wont mind or have any ill feelings..

    Ohh and have a nice day too
    its not that...this topic gets discussed every few months along with cartridges and turntables...the answers and suggestions are out there, lots of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Conrad View Post
    its not that...this topic gets discussed every few months along with cartridges and turntables...the answers and suggestions are out there, lots of them.
    I understand and this will go on forever as long as there is a DHP..lol

    I know where you are coming from.

    Hey think of it this way, at least we are taking about something related to music which is what it is all about right?


    There are many topics here that have nothing to do with a "Disco or Deep House talk"

    (not that there is anything wrong with that either just pointing it out)


    Lately, I have been really trying to stay focused on music topics when I post. It is the reason I am in here so damn much in the first place....lol


    Thanks Man and big respect always!!

    PS .....Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Conrad View Post
    the new bozak...

    -like i said, they bought the name, just like the guy bought the old urei name and had soundcraft recreate them. some people loved the 'new' urei, i have one. some hated it. some wouldn't touch it based on the fact it was made in china.

    -nobody even has one yet that i know of. mixed reviews on the 'bozak isolator'.

    -you got kevin hedge appearing pushing the new bozak then appearing in ads pushing a behringer mixer that is widely known to be a piece of crap...

    -your best bet is to actually play on these mixers. you play on stuff on a variety of sound systems enough times you know what to expect and what delivers. there is no blanket answer or best mixer. these are all good like i said, way better than the cheap crap.

    -its like cars. you have ferrari guys and you have porsche guys. both are good cars with a long racing heritage. both are fast sports cars but both are different driving and mechanical experiences. but neither are toyota corollas, get what i'm saying? you see a lot of corollas on the road (i own one, great car), but it is not a high performance vehicle that even compares to a porsche or ferrari.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneMasterMixer View Post
    I understand and this will go on forever as long as there is a DHP..lol

    I know where you are coming from.

    Hey think of it this way, at least we are taking about something related to music which is what it is all about right?


    There are many topics here that have nothing to do with a "Disco or Deep House talk"

    (not that there is anything wrong with that either just pointing it out)


    Lately, I have been really trying to stay focused on music topics when I post. It is the reason I am in here so damn much in the first place....lol


    Thanks Man and big respect always!!

    PS .....Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    also, understand, this board is not the end al of audio knowledge...hardly...there are many other boards out there that actually discuss music and gear and that actual sound guys post on. i'm surprised this thread hasn't gotten the obligatory 'f*ck nyc rotary mixers, in chicago we use slide faders, my pioneer is good enough for me' type post...

    there's a lot of knowledge out there...for audio or whatever...

    but seriously, i would actually try different types of mixers on various sound systems...that's how i know what i like...

    what i usually recommend to new people looking to go rotary are the rane mixers. they are new, still in production, sound good and have loads of options and features. i prefer something like a urei because its stripped down, no eq's, i can hook up what i want, has a certain sound. that new bozak is not out yet but i would love to play with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Conrad View Post
    .... i'm surprised this thread hasn't gotten the obligatory 'f*ck nyc rotary mixers, in chicago we use slide faders, my pioneer is good enough for me' type post...

    ..
    wrong again..you're like 0 for 3

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