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    The History of New York City Basketball by Tiny Archibald

    The History

    The History of New York City Basketball






    Connie Hawkins playing with the Harlem Globtrotters.

    The Summer Leagues And Playground




    Dr. J Julius Erving

    Every June the annual summer basketball leagues begin
    from the biddies to the old-timers. Some of the
    premiere leagues also begin as the Greater New York
    Pro-Am League at Riverbank State Park in Manhattan and
    The Louis Armstrong (Elmcor) Gym in Queens, The Nike
    Pro League at Hunter College, and the Citywide League
    at all the five boroughs in New York City. The crowd
    packs it up in Harlem at the Rucker Playground. The
    Rucker Playground brings a special tradition for New
    York Basketball. The crowds are over packed to see the
    likes of Wilt Chamberlain, Connie Hawkins, Julius
    Erving, Kareem Abdul Jabaar and the playground greats
    of the game.

    The league at Rucker Park is now call the Entertainers
    Basketball Classic. This is the league where the
    celebrities come out to watch or play. Rap artist Sean
    "Puffy" Combs has a team in the league. It is called
    Bad Boy Entertainment, also Little Kim and Ceasar have
    a team in the league. A few of the NBA stars came out
    and played a.k.a. Vince Carter, Allen Iverson, Joe
    Smith, Kevin Garnett, Stephon Maubury, and Kobe
    Bryant. The current playground legends playing is
    Rafer "Skip To My Lou" Alston, James "Speedy"
    Williams, Malloy "The Future" Nesmith, Ron "The
    Terminator" Mathias, Half Man-Half Amazing, and The
    Main Event. If you going there to watch the action you
    need to get there early in order to get a seat; they
    do turn people away.

    The West 4th Street Summer League located in downtown
    Manhattan and it features some of the best ballers on
    the semi-pro level. The Sole In The Hole Classic in
    Bedford-Stuyvestant area in Brooklyn feature some the
    best local college and semi pro players. A documentary
    film was made of this tournament featuring the team
    Kenny Kings, Ed "Boger" Smith, and Charles Jones who
    led the NCAA in scoring back in 1997. Smith was on the
    cover of Sports Illustrated and had a story about him
    back in 1996.

    A few of these playground legends could have made it
    to the NBA and some did not. They never made due to
    their grades in the classroom, disciplinary problems,
    and other issues that affect them from having a great
    career in the professional ranks. Here is a few of
    them:

    Earl "The Goat" Mannigult - Known as the greatest
    player who never played in the NBA. Had great leaping
    ability and school the likes of Wilt, Connie, and
    Kareem on the Rucker playgrounds. Rebound from heroin
    use and gave back to his community. A park and
    tournament is name after him on the lower Eastside in
    Manhattan.

    James "Fly" Williams - Can light it up on offense,
    drops 63 points on Moses Malone in the Dapper Dan
    Classic. Had a brief stint at Austin Peay State (TN).

    Richard "Pee Wee" Kirkland - Had fierce rivalries with
    Tiny Archibald. He rejected a contract that the
    Chicago Bulls offer him and said "Hey I could make
    more money in a couple of days on the street".

    Joe "The Destroyer" Hammond - Score 50 points in one
    half against Julius Erving in the Rucker Tournament.

    Lloyd "Sweet Pea" Daniels - He was a one man gang on
    his team. He can do it all score, rebound, and had a
    lot of versatility. Daniels had poor grades, which
    force him to attend four different schools in 3 years.
    Drop out of high school in 1986 got his GED. His
    arrest for drug possession prevents from playing at
    UNLV. After recovering from his gunshot wounds, he had
    a few brief stints in the NBA with San Antonio, LA
    Lakers, and Philadelphia.

    Rafer "Skip To My Lou" Alston - A flashy and quick
    point guard can make things happen. Played one year at
    Fresno State after transfering from the JUCO ranks and
    a backup point guard for the Milwaukee Bucks.




    The City Championship Era:


    Rafer Alston



    Back in the 60's and 70's the Public School City
    Champion played against Catholic High School Champion
    for the ultimate city title at Madison Square Garden.
    It was the best thing tah was going on back in the
    days and the Garden was completely sold out. Due to
    riots and gang violence, the event had to be removed
    from the Garden and it ended the matchup between the
    PSAL and CHSAA championship teams. Anyway, the city
    championships for both leagues still carry on it's
    tradition. The PSAL play the city title at St. John's
    and Hunter in the late 70's and 80's. In the early
    90's the Public High School city championship games
    were allow to return to play at Madison Square Garden.
    The Catholic High School continue to play at Fordham
    University in the Bronx. The winners of the CHSAA and
    PSAL titles compete in Glens Falls and play the New
    York State Public School champions and Private
    Schools. The New York State championships in 1979, the
    two city champions play each other a majority of the
    time. It is not the same upstate as it will be in New
    York City. It will always be a player's dream to win
    the city title over the state. Some of the city's
    great ball players got the opportunity to win a city
    title such as the likes of Tiny Archibald, Lew
    Alcindor, Kenny Anderson, Rod Strickland, Malik Sealy,
    Felipe Lopez, Stephon Maubury, Lamar Odom, Eric
    Barkley, Kenny Satterfield, and Ron Artest.

    Power Memorial and Tolentine won more than a city or
    state championship; they had experience of winning a
    National High School Championship. In 1967, Power was
    led by the great Lew Alcindor (Now Kareem Abdul
    Jabaar) and in 1988, Tolentine High in the Bronx was
    led by the late Malik Sealy. Sealy star at St. John's
    and played with Minnesota Timberwolves. Tolentine was
    also led by Adrian "Red" Autry who played for Syracuse
    and Brian Reese who was a standout at North Carolina.
    Some of the city championship teams finish in the top
    25 such as Rice, Loughlin, St. Raymond's, Lincoln,
    Grady, and LaSalle.


    The AAU Teams:

    The AAU teams became a frontier for players to earn
    scholarships to college. It is a great opportunity to
    perform in front of the college coaches in the nation.
    Two of the top AAU teams are The Riverside Church
    Hawks and Gauchos. They travel across the nation and
    Europe to compete against other teams. The Riverside
    program is run by Ernie Lorch has produce the top
    talented players such as Walter Berry, Kenny Smith,
    Mark Jackson, Ron Artest and Elton Brand. Lou
    D'Almedia's Gauchos had the likes of Ed Pinkney, Chris
    Mullin,DeWayne "The Pearl" Washington,Kenny Anderson,
    Rod Strickland,Stephon Maubury, and Jamal Mashburn.
    They are other AAU teams that compete with Riverside
    and Gauchos is Brooklyn USA, Elmcor, Madison Square
    Broncos, and The New York Ravens.

    The People Who Made It Happen:

    The coaches, league directors, coordinators, and
    scouts deserve a lot of credit for making New York
    City Basketball popular today. They dedicated their
    time to search the players, coaches, and corporate
    support to take these leagues/tournaments and
    community to higher levels. These are the people
    behind it:

    Holcomb Rucker - He made a big influence with the kids
    in the community. Influence them to be successful on
    the court as well as in life.

    Ernie Lorch - Founder of the Riverside Church Hawks
    Basketball program. Mr. Lorch has help and produced
    several of the best players in the city out of his
    program. He was like a father figure to his kids and
    know their lives in and out. Help his players go to
    the best colleges throughout the country and assist
    them with their personal lives. Not only he help his
    players, also the people who coach his program. He has
    help the likes of Alex Evans and Dermon Player who are
    assistant coaches under Mike Jarvis at St. John's.

    Lou D'Alemedia - Owner of the Gauchos who has been a
    father figre to his players. He has produced like his
    rival Ernie Lorch players to the best college programs
    in the country.

    Bob McCollugh - Director of the Each One/Teach One
    Program and the Rucker Pro League.

    Cal Ramsey - Director of Community Relations with the
    New York Knicks. Became a big supporter for the top
    leagues and tournaments in New York.

    Cecil Watkins - President, CEO The Pro-Am League.
    Started as a director for the Ray Felix Tournament in
    Queens which was an elite tournament in the 60's. A
    few of the top players in New York such as Connie
    Hawkins, Dean Meminger, Lenny Wilkens, Ron Rutledge,
    Mel "Killer" Davis and a few to name. He became the
    Founder for Elmcor Youth and Adult Activities in East
    Elmhurst. Start up the Greater New York Pro-Am League
    which is one of the elite Summer Leagues in New York.
    The top New York City players participate in the
    league: Chris Mullin, Anthony Mason, Mark Jackson,
    Felipe Lopez, Rod Strickland, and Ron Artest. The
    Pro-Am League is a nationwide base organization around
    the country such as Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington
    DC, and Houston.

    Nat Holman - Coached City College to 1949-50 NIT and
    NCAA title. Nat Holman was known as "Mr.Basketball."
    Because his five starters were all about the same
    size, Holman viewed
    them as interchangeable parts. His style was an
    aggressive, switching, man-to-man defense and a
    fast-breaking, pass-oriented offense. Ed Roman, the
    center, was 6-foot-6. Layne and Al Roth were 6-3
    guards, and Ed Warner and Irwin Dambrot were 6-4
    forwards. In 1994, the entire college's 1949-50 team
    was inducted into the New York City Basketball Hall of
    Fame.

    Red Holtzman - Head Coach of the Knicks. Coach them to
    the 1970 and 1973 NBA Championships. The garden was
    rocking in the days of their glory years. Had a few of
    the greats of the game: Willis Reed, Walt Frazier,
    Deam Meminger, Phil Jackson, and Earl "The Pearl"
    Monroe.

    Tom Konchalski - HSBI. One of the top basketball
    experts around the nation. He goes out and scout the
    elite athletes in the country.

    Jack Curran - The all-time winningest coach in New
    York State. He has been coaching at Archbishop Molloy
    high school for over 40 years. He has won a few city
    titles and coach the likes of Kevin Joyce, Kenny
    Smith, Robert Werdann, Kenny Anderson, Marlon Smith,Shandue McNeil,Sundiata Gaines,Brian Winters.

    Lou Carnesseca - Long time coach for St. John's and
    kept some of the local talent players in New York. St.
    John's made several appearances in the NCAA Tournament
    and the final four in 1985. Some of his players move
    on to the NBA such as the likes of Chris Mullin, Mark
    Jackson, Bill Wennington, Jayson Williams and etc. In
    1991 Coach Carnesecca was elected into the Basketball
    Hall Of Fame.

    Jack Donahue - Coach at Power Memorial in the 60's
    which produce Lew Alcindor. Power became the city's
    dominant program. Also, was the head coach the
    Canadian National Team in the Olympics.


    Summary:

    New York City hoops is in a new millenium and the
    talent continues to grow stronger. The talent will
    always come and go. The tournaments throughout the
    year continue to expand around the city and it will Still be excitement for all basketball junkies.

    I would like to add some information to this thread(Much Respect to my man Tiny Archibald from Patterson Projects in the Bronx/LOL), Here's a few of the Legendary coaches, Who helped develop alot of the cats that have played in the many AAU Tournaments(IS8,Rucker,Breevort,Tillary Park,West 4thst,Elmcor/Citywode, Highschool(PSAL,CHSAA Division),Etc, In New York, Going back to the 60's.

    1.Frank Mickens(Former Coach At Boys High in Brooklyn in the 60's to 1979)
    2.Rapper PerezRip(Former coach for Brooklyn USA And the Crushers in the 70's).

    3.Ray Haskins(Former Coach of Hamilton HS in the 70's to 1983, And, Former head coach of LIU in the mid 90's).

    4.Al Matican(Former Head coach of Cardoza HS in Queens in the 70's, Al Matican coached the first Crew from Queens to win the PSAL Championship in 1978(Cardoza beat Morris from the Bronx in the PSAL Championship game in 1978 at St.John's University.

    4.Bobby Hartstein(Former Head Coach at Lincoln HS in Brooklyn from the 70's to mid 90's).

    5.Ab-A-DAB Kelly(Used to coach and develop alot of cats from around the southside and Queens, Such as Eddie Lee/Rip(St.John's Military Academy in Wisconsin and The University of Cinncinnatti),Keith Hemans(The University of Cincinnatti),Rod Leecox(New Mexico State),Dana Mitchell(Hillcrest HS/Buffalo State),Kenny Patterson(Forest Hills HS/Depaul)George Allen(Jackson/Pittsburgh),Boo Harvey(Jackson/St.John's),Doug Harris(Jackson),Ron Edwards(Jackson),Dave Edwards(Jackson/Georgetown/Texas A&M),Rafer Alston(Cardoza/Fresno State),Brian Woodward(Cardoza/Rhode Island),Shaheen Holloway(St.Patricks/Seton Hall)Etc.

    6.James Ryans(Former coach of the Prime-Time Roadrunners unlimited/Pro-Am crew in the 70's to mid 90's), Current Basketball Scout for the New York Knicks).

    7.Ron(The Teacher) Naclario(Current Head coach of Cardoza HS in Queens.

    8.Tiny Morton(Current head coach of Lincoln HS in Brooklyn.
    9.Dave Hargrave/Rip(Former head coach of the Jamaica Trotters in Jamaica,Queens in the 70's.

    10.Kenny(Eggman)Williamson(Former Head coach of Riverside Church AAU crew from the mid 70's to late 70's, And, Current Director of Scouting of the Charolotte Bobcats.

    11.Steve Lappas(Former head coach of Riverside Church(Midgets,Junior Division), Former Head coach of Truman HS in the late 70's to mid 80's(Coached Rod Strickland in Highschool at Truman in the early to mid 80's, Along with Winning the PSAL title in 1984, Truman Beat Jackson from Queens with Boo Harvey for the PSL title in 1984 at St.John's University).

    12.Gil Reynolds(Former head coach of Vanguard AAU Crew from Brooklyn in the 70's.

    13.Joe Bostic-Former head coach Vanguard AAU Crew from Brooklyn.
    14.Stan Dinner(Former head coach at Franklin HS in Manhattan.

    15.Jim Del Gatto(Former head coach of Mater Christi in Astoria,Queens from the 70's to 90's).

    16.Raymond Gillespie/Rip(Former coach of JYO and QYA highschool and Unlimited/Pro crews from the 70's.

    17.Billy Medley(Former coach of JYO/Jamaica Youth Organization and QYA/Queens Youth Alliance from the 70's to 90's).

    18.Mr.Adams(Former Coach at The Lost Battalion in Rego,Park Queens(PAL Touraments, Mr.Adams was very instrumental, In regards to taking highschool and college cats upnorth to Sing,Sing Prision to play against cats upnorth in the late 70's to mid 80's).

    19.Leroy Watkins(Former Head coach of Elmcor AAU highschool crew in Astoria,Queens during the 70's,80's).

    All of these coaches(And alot more that were not mentioned, Paved the way for alot of cats to develop into some of the best cats to ever play the game(NBA,ABA,College,Highschool,Drug/Sniff Tournaments in Queens,Manhattan,Etc).
    Much Respect
    Mike Barnes

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    Taking nothing away from N.Y hoops the best basketball is played in Chicago.Lloyd Batts,Isahia Thomas,Eddie Johnson, Ronnie Lester, Mark Agquire Teddy Grubbs,Raymond Mccoy,the three amigos from Proviso East(Sherral Ford, Donnie Bryce,Micheal Finley)Marcus Liberty.Darren Brittan,Terry Cummings and the best who was taken away from us Ben Wilson who was doing what Lebron is doing now before there was even a Labron.I'm sure I left out a lot of great players but the space does not allow me to list them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barnes View Post

    Back in the 60's and 70's the Public School City
    Champion played against Catholic High School Champion
    for the ultimate city title at Madison Square Garden.
    It was the best thing tah was going on back in the
    days and the Garden was completely sold out. Due to
    riots and gang violence, the event had to be removed
    from the Garden and it ended the matchup between the
    PSAL and CHSAA championship teams. Anyway, the city
    championships for both leagues still carry on it's
    tradition. The PSAL play the city title at St. John's
    and Hunter in the late 70's and 80's. In the early
    90's the Public High School city championship games
    were allow to return to play at Madison Square Garden.
    The Catholic High School continue to play at Fordham
    University in the Bronx. The winners of the CHSAA and
    PSAL titles compete in Glens Falls and play the New
    York State Public School champions and Private
    Schools. The New York State championships in 1979, the
    two city champions play each other a majority of the
    time. It is not the same upstate as it will be in New
    York City. It will always be a player's dream to win
    the city title over the state. Some of the city's
    great ball players got the opportunity to win a city
    title such as the likes of Tiny Archibald, Lew
    Alcindor, Kenny Anderson, Rod Strickland, Malik Sealy,
    Felipe Lopez, Stephon Maubury, Lamar Odom, Eric
    Barkley, Kenny Satterfield, and Ron Artest.

    Much Respect
    Mike Barnes
    A vision I hope would come back to reality. PSAL v. CHSAA in hoops, plus the old football Metro Bowl (PSAL v. CHSFL). From seeing it firsthand, a hoops matchup in Glens Falls is NOT the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Plus, The state federation doesn't even allow PSAL football to compete in upstate's tournament! And that's unfortunate!
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    The History of New York City Basketball by Tiny Archibald

    Dj Chef-ron, I'm very happy to see the passion that you share for the Chicago basketball scene my man, Dj-Chef-ron, Even though i'm from New York, I share the passion that you do, In regards to The History of Chicago basketball too moneygrip/LOL, Dj-Chef-Ron, If yo don't mine, I

    Would like to build with you on some cats from Chicago, Going back to the 70's, Like, Efrem Winters(King HS/Illinois),Bruce Douglass(Illinois),Russell Cross(Purdue),Sonny Parker(Golden State Warriors),Lloyd Walton(Marquette),Bo Ellis(Marquette),Larry Allaway(King HS), Doc Rivers(Proviso East),Terry Cummings(Carver HS/DePaul),Skip Dillard(Westinghouse HS/Depaul),Bernard Randolph(DePaul),Alfredrick Hughes(Loyola),Carl Golston(Loyola),Andre Battle(Loyola),Raymond McCoy(Depaul/University of San Franciso),Arthur Agee

    (Marshall HS/Arkansas State),Rashard Griffin(King HS/Wisconsin),Dewan Howard(Michigan), Etc, Dj Chef-Ron, Yes, Ben Wilson was a very,Very, Talented cat to the ninth power my man(WORD/LOL), I had the opportunity to watch Ben Wilson play at Five-Star Basketball Camp in the summer of 1984(After Ben Wilsons Junior year at Simeon HS via a tape that Howard Garfinkel had given a friend of mines by the name of Eddie Fogler(Former Assistant Coach at North Carolina in the 70's to late 80's), Ben Wilson was in the same class of 1985 as Rod Strickland,Boo Harvey,Poo Richardson,Kenny Wilson(New Jersey cat in the backourt who wss drug nice for St.Anthoney's HS in Jersey

    City,New jersey in the early/mid 80's),Jeff Lebo(Former North Carolina cat from the mid to late 80's, Sherman Douglas,Etc, Ben Wilson Demolished everybody in site at five-Star in the summer of 1984 mad hard(Sort of like what Moses Malone and Kevin Garnett were doing in Highschool back in 1970 to 1974(Moses Malone years in Highschool), And, 1992-19969(Kevin Garnett's years in Highschool in South Carolina and Chicago), I was very saddened to hear the unfortunate news of Ben Wilson's passing in 1984 mad hard, Ben Wilson was the top player in the country in 1984 by far(WORD/LOL), Fletch, The last time i seen a matchup between The PSAL(Public school champions)

    vs ChSAA(Catholic School Champions), Was in 1978, Which featured Cardoza(The first Crew from Queens to take the PSAL championship in 1978),Against Mater Christi(Which Featured Red Bruin,Phil Smith,Vern Fleming,Dywane Johnson,Etc, Mater Christi Demolished Cardoza by 30 that day at St.John's University my man/LOL, On the low, Greg Fraction(Who brought it up for Cardoza with my man Keith Brown playing alongside him in the backcourt), Was out allnight the night before the game(Cats threw Frac(Greg Fraction), A party around the southside(If i remember correctly, The Throwdown was at The Rennasance on Parsons Blvd and Hillside ave(Across the street from

    Hillcrest HS), Because, Mater Christi was not 30 points better than Cardoza(Who had mad horses along with a very good backcourt, In fact, Bill Travers(Former Sportwriter for The Daily News from the 60's to 90's), Mentioned that Keith Brown and Greg Fraction was the best backcourt in New York in 1978(Even Better than Phil Smith and Vern Fleming at Mater Christi), If Frac(Greg Fraction would have been himself that day against Mater Christi(Frac was mad tired along with being zooted too/LOL), Mater Christi would have had a very,Very, hard time against Cardoza(Much Respec to Al matican, Former Coach of Cardoza in the 70's).
    Much respect
    Mike Barnes
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    Mike, The last football Metro Bowl I saw was, I believe, Kennedy v. Christ The King in the late 80s.

    One of the coaches you put up there was Stan Dinner. That was one crazy cat. I don't know if there was any game I saw Franklin where he didn't get a tech! LOL!

    Remember, it took Hartstein and Lincoln years before they got their first City title, a 62-50 win over Franklin in 1986. Tiny Morton took over and built a super dynasty!
    "You can master any situation if you can master yourself."
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    Fletch, It took Bobby Harstein years before he took the chips(PSAL title in 1986), Because, The talent level in New York was weak back in the 80's(After 1981When cats like Kenny Patterson,Ice Reynolds,Beetle Washington,Horace Nesmith/Queens cat who played foe Delahanty HS in Jamaica, Queens in the late 70's/early 80's, And, Massachusetts from 1981-1985), Chris Mullin,Mario

    Ellie(Who played for Power Memorial Uptown with Chris Mullen in the late 70's Before Chris Mullin Transferred to Xvierian HS in Brooklyn in 1979/80),George Allen(Jackson),Vern Fleming(Jackson),Etc, Fletch, Highschool basketball was mad,Mad, Tough in the 70's moneygrip/LOL, That's why alot of crews did not

    Go as far as they should have(Like, Boys HS,Hamilton,Jackson,Cardinal Hayes with Jimmy Black in the late 70's,Rice with Maurice Hicks and Michael Eddy from Uptown in the late 70's, Lincoln with Eric Marbury/The Oldest Marbury brother who used to pole vault in the rim on cats at 6'1/LOL, Eric Marbury played with Dominique Wilkens,Vern Fleming, And, Jeff Thomas(Sheepshead Bay),At The University of Georgia from 1978-1982, Hugh Durham(Former Head coach at Georgia, Lived in New York recruiting cats in the late 70's my man/LOL).
    Much Respect
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    TThe History of New York City Basketball by Tiny Archibald.

    I would like to add a few more cats, Who played very imnportant roles, In regards to The New York City Basketball scene in the 60's/70's,80's.

    1.Teddy Jones-Former Head Coach of The Courtsman Unlimited/Summer Pro-Am crew at The Rucker,West 4thst,Tillary Park,IS8,DykeMan Projects,Citywide/Elmcor Pro Tournament at Roberto Clemente State park in

    The Bronx,Etc, Teddy Jones was one of the best coaches in New York during the 70's/80's, And, Teddy Jones was one of the most cerebral coaches, In regards to knowledge of the game of basketball and basketball strategy.

    2.Howie Evans-Former Head Coach at The Rucker,Community Activist,Former Sportswriter for the Amsterdam News in the 70's, Park Director for numerous tournaments around New York, Like, Elmcor/Citywide at Roberto Clemente

    State park,145sth and 8thave citywide/Elmcor Tournaments uptown/Harlem in the 70's,CCNY Pro tournaments,Fordham AAU Tournaments in the 70's,80's, Etc, Howie Evans was one of the first cats to Coach Julius Erving at The Rucker along with Peter Vescey in the early 70's.

    3.Peter Vescey-Former head coach of The Westsiders Pro/Unlimited crew at The Rucker in the 70's to early 80's, Pete Vescey has coached cats like Julius Erving,Charlie Scott,Sam Worthen,Jeff Ruland,Rick Mahorn,Etc, And, Pete Vescey is the only cat that i'm aware of, Who have won back to back Championships at The Rucker in the 70's(1972/73), And, Pete Vesceys crew(Pony Sneakers), Took the Rucker in 1980 with Sam Worthen,Jeff Ruland,Pat Cummings,Etc.
    Much Respect
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    Total BS!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dj-chefron View Post
    Taking nothing away from N.Y hoops the best basketball is played in Chicago.Lloyd Batts,Isahia Thomas,Eddie Johnson, Ronnie Lester, Mark Agquire Teddy Grubbs,Raymond Mccoy,the three amigos from Proviso East(Sherral Ford, Donnie Bryce,Micheal Finley)Marcus Liberty.Darren Brittan,Terry Cummings and the best who was taken away from us Ben Wilson who was doing what Lebron is doing now before there was even a Labron.I'm sure I left out a lot of great players but the space does not allow me to list them all.
    Not to take away from Chicago hoops but whose to say which city has better ballers. What do you based that on? break it down!!!
    7000 I charged him!!!

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