Reason vs RS7000

[DJ George Bates]

I have reason and I have the yamaha rs7000 ....I'm trying to decide where to focus my energy to learn....

When it comes to production...I'm a complete novice. Complete....

I don't understand MIDI and as I'm figuring.. to get the full benefit from reason, i gotta understand and use MIDI....

The RS7000 seems to be self contained and I can load samples but it isn't exactly portable....

The biggest benefit to reason is I can run it on my Laptop...i.e. portability.

HELP !!!

Any advice is appreciated...!

[socratez]

Humm thats a tuff choice. You got to get rid of one of them because they have to much overlap.

I personaly think its easier to get studioquality tracks with reason and a soundcard then only with the rs7000.

I think reason is easier to learn,, but RS7000 is much more fun.

How fast is your laptop??

[DJ George Bates]

My laptop is a compaq 2ghz w/225(?) mgs of ram...

The euiptment isn't the issue tho... which one will provide the best result...?

[socratez]

Learning Reason is easier then learning the RS7k... The RS will go out of style within a few years. Reason will be updated for ever and will get better and better.

If you want my suggestion: Sell the RS7000 and buy a good audiocard for that money.

[DJ George Bates]

thanx....

the rs7k has the ability to take ANY sample and use it tho... so theoretically , I can add any new sound source..right ?

[O'love]

this *really* depends on your prefered way of working, ie do you wanna use hardware or software? do you wanna do live gigs with a laptop or not?

they can both produce pro-sounding music, my experience is that the RS7000 gives you an easier way to create a pro sounding arrangement, with reason you have to do a little more work to get away from the typical reason sound....this is mainly due to using the default soundfactory-presets....

the RS7000 gives you lots of knobs to have realtime control, you have to buy a hardware midi controller to get this for Reason.... you could also use the RS7000 for this, to control Reason..but there are cheaper alternatives like the evolution UC-midi controllers...

Reason has more options build in than the RS7000.....mainly the synth-modules....also the samplers are more advanced (layering, splitting etc.) BUT the RS7000 gives you build-in slicing of loops, to do this with Reason you have to purchase Recycle to create (.rex) files to load into Dr.Rex....

what i don't understand: you say you need to learn MIDI to use Reason to the fullest..this is not true...but you need to learn about audio control (CV/gate in reason) routing...but you also have to learn this to be able to use f.e. the mixer and EQ and effect routings inside the RS7000...

so, the main decisions are: do you prefer using software or hardware? do you not mind using a laptop for live gigs?

Olaf

[O'love]

Originally posted by DJ George Bates:
thanx....

the rs7k has the ability to take ANY sample and use it tho... so theoretically , I can add any new sound source..right ? yes , but reason gives you more than only samplers.....also synth-modules like the subtractor and the malstrom...... so in the future there will be new and improved modules for reason, while the RS7000 probably only will receive a minor bugfix update or something...software is more flexible than hardware in this area..

Olaf

[the crackhouse]

Georges,if you're a novice, I think you should give reason the first try.
- You'll understand quickly the MIDI concepts, CV/Gate stuff, and will have an overview of all hardware equipments (sampler, synth, loop player, mixer...).
- Then it will be easier to get into your RS after you tried it virtually.

Honestly, you can use reason after only 10 hours reading the manual and trying to do some tracks.
It's really well explained ad the approach is made for the novice.
I also understood how was working an oscillator and how to get the sound I want, with some good explanations about sinusoidal curves and all, interesting and good education.

BUT ! I think you'll really need a keyboard (even a 2 octaves one) to get into reason, unless you're a tough guy !

Reason first, and I'm sure you'll get into the RS with enough knowledge and intuition to use it well really fast.

Good luck !

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by socratez:
Learning Reason is easier then learning the RS7k... The RS will go out of style within a few years. Reason will be updated for ever and will get better and better.

If you want my suggestion: Sell the RS7000 and buy a good audiocard for that money. Good advice, although Reason won't be updated forever IF PEOPLE KEEP SHARING PIRATED COPIES.

[socratez]

Reason is one the best selling software music products nowadays so dont worry

[ January 07, 2004, 02:18 PM: Message edited by: socratez ]

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by socratez:
Reason is one the best selling software music products nowadays so dont worry I remember hearing that about Cubase. Then Steinberg sold out to Pinnacle because piracy killed their revenue (Sound on Sound article - can't remember the issue offhand).

[DJ George Bates]

i bought an Oxygen controller today.... so...here goes!

i'm going to try the reason first then go from there...!

thanx for all the advice ! hail.gif

[the crackhouse]

Originally posted by DJ George Bates:
i bought an Oxygen controller today.... so...here goes!

i'm going to try the reason first then go from there...!

thanx for all the advice ! hail.gif Georges... Hhhhhhh... my son.... You took your fate in your own hands...HHHHhhhh.... May the house be with you.... Hhhhh...

[DJ George Bates]

and also with you ! hail.gif