All the colors of...TRAX

[AC]

Maybe this topic has been already posted but I have to know about this again: was there any reason because the same Trax 12 inch came out with different label colors? I mean, which was the first pressing color of a 12 inch? I have Jungle Wonz - the jungle - on RED Trax, but I saw GREEN and also BLACK copies...same is for Marshall Jefferson - move your body (RED and BLACK). Were they later presses or what?

AC
:confused:

[Martin Red]

Red Black and green.
http://www.fhm.com/img/reporter/bigeye/may1/arniebig.jpg

I'll be back.

[Martin Red]

Good question,
I was told the black ones are ltd. similiar with the green. I remember 80's red, but red has also been the colour of re-presses.

Can anyone confirm the ltd. story ? :confused:

[socratez]

Ive seen a blue copy of phuture dont know wich one,i believeit was; puture we will survive.

[Nege]

I have orange copies of :
What is house - Willie Wonka(not a good record)

Hey Rocky - Boris Badenough

[maskmelodic]

orange copies of Virgo "Free YOurself"
Red copies of Marshall Jefferson "HOuse Anthem"
there are green copies of Jungle Wonz
tunes
Trax w/ white and red letters

[Nege]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maskmelodic:
Trax w/ white and red letters<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah ,
my "Bring Down The Walls" is white with red letters.

[Klaus B]

Got a white/w black writing copy
of Fresh"Dum Dum". A friend of mine was in
Chicago and met a guy who used to work
for DJ International. He told that usually
the black labels were first pressings.

[mocilo74]

gotta green one - kool rock jay (rap)

[Placid]

i mailed larry sherman, he simply said he pressed em with whatever colour ink he had to hand

i have some blue ones,green,orange were the original pressings All my orange ones were good quality)and red obviously

[Tommy S]

I have a blue one of Mrfingers (larry H) with washing machine,can you feel it&beyond the clouds what pressing was that one?!

[Placid]

that was the blue pressing tommy

[Tommy S]

thanks for enlightening me :D i meant is it the first or a repress or something,i bought it this weekend,still sealed! (not anymore now :rolleyes: ) for about $17.5 ,nice price no?

[Martin Red]

Did anyone see these colours of Trax back in 86 - 89 ?, curious to see Chi heads responses on this question ?

[Placid]

there were def no blue.......back in the day

[Martin Red]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Martin Red:
Did anyone see these colours of Trax back in 86 - 89 ?, curious to see Chi heads responses on this question ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_59b76d63eb801f87513ae68756/i-1.JPG

The one I have had since day one was the old fashioned Red one. Has anyone else got any more solid information on this colour thing.

[Martin Red]

And the more traditional looking....

http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_4c988baeb6b1f2f8554ed3d19/i-1.JPG

[Martin Red]

International House , indeed
http://collectablesonline.com/49-71.jpg

I'll stop now.

[Placid]

ones with barcodes on are new/represses

[AC]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Martin Red:
Did anyone see these colours of Trax back in 86 - 89 ?, curious to see Chi heads responses on this question ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have Maurice "Big dick" on Blue Trax...all my others are red, except Sleezy D. "I've lost control" wich is black.

AC

[Martin Red]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Placid:
ones with barcodes on are new/represses<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DOH !

Picture of Adonis (above) looks like an old trax except for the barcode which my eyes missed.

So there is no definitive answer to Trax colours except Blue didn't appear back in the day ? <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Placid:
there were def no blue.......back in the day<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

CHIP E MIGHT HAVE THE ANSWER ?

[ January 22, 2002: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

['Magic' Juan]

The definite way to tell an original from a reissue is by looking at the bottom of the label. If it was pressed by PRECISION records, it is an original. If it was pressed by CAP IMPORTS, it is a reissue.

As for the the issue with the color labels, my understanding is that L. Sherman was cheap and whatever was lying around was up for grabs. The lack of quality vinyl pretty much reinforces this theory. Blue WAS used for some earlier pressings. My Sweet D pressing of 'Thank Ya' is in blue. Hopefully this clears some things up. Peace!

magic_juan tongue.gif

[Martin Red]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus B:
Got a white/w black writing copy
of Fresh"Dum Dum". A friend of mine was in
Chicago and met a guy who used to work
for DJ International. He told that usually
the black labels were first pressings.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by magic_juan:
Blue WAS used for some earlier pressings. My Sweet D pressing of 'Thank Ya' is in blue. Hopefully this clears some things up. Peace!
magic_juan tongue.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Still a bit of confusion, but thanks magic_juan, the precision cap imports helps.


So Trax can be
Black
Blue
Green
Red
White
Orange
?

But Red is the colour we mostly remember.

My Thank ya is Green.

Thank Ya

[socratez]

Does that mean that all releases have randomly chosen lable colors?????
t

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Placid:
i mailed larry sherman, he simply said he pressed em with whatever colour ink he had to hand

i have some blue ones,green,orange were the original pressings All my orange ones were good quality)and red obviously<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: socratez ]

[socratez]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Martin Red:
There also different combinations of colors. Ive seen an compilation album with green letters and white background for instance.
Still a bit of confusion, but thanks magic_juan, the precision cap imports helps.


So Trax can be
Black
Blue
Green
Red
White
Orange
?

But Red is the colour we mostly remember.

My Thank ya is Green.

Thank Ya<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Chip_E]

Trust me on this one,
Larry Sherman's explanation that he used whatever was on hand, was very accurate.

While the only dealings I actually had with Larry was when I had him press an acetate (test pressing) of Jack Trax...while I watched him very closely, I visited his plant many times with different people.

Everytime I went there I was amazed at what a pig-stye it was. There was no order whatsoever. It was truly amazing that he could find people to work for him, let alone actually produce sellable goods.

But he did, and I digress.

-e.

[Martin Red]

http://kids.sinfree.net/fat%20man%20dance/art/1059261a.gif

Thanks Chip, Larry was saving his money for those burgers eh'

[Placid]

i think those sweet d on blue were represses i picked mine up about 93...

still orig looking....

[Chip_E]

BTW, "Sweet D" was actually me and Danny Wilson (from Full House, "Communicate").
Long story short, Danny needed some cash, I threw the tracks together, and he added some additional keys. We sequenced everything, threw it straight to a 1/4" reel and added in some truly goofy vocals while it was recording.
Danny took the tape to Larry...I didn't want my name associated with Larry Sherman AT ALL.
Also note, I never saw ANY money from the record.

Talk about a ONE HOUR RECORD.

-e.

[Placid]

wasn't 'thank ya' taken from a cheryll lynn track i think it was on frankie knuckles 4 lp superduper quadruple whammy compilation he released last year

[Martin Red]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Placid:
wasn't 'thank ya' taken from a cheryll lynn track i think it was on frankie knuckles 4 lp superduper quadruple whammy compilation he released last year<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was borrowed from Cheryl Lynn - You saved my day.

Never knew that was you Chip E, you learn something everyday.
Thank ya.

[ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

['Magic' Juan]

[ July 19, 2002, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: magic_juan ]

[prussell]

releases/colors I have other than red:

Black:
Santos-work the box
Ron Hardy-Sensation
Farley-Fuckin w/ the drums again
Rude Boy Farley-Give your house to me
Master C&J-When you hold me
Vince Lawrence-Virgo tracks again
Jesse Velez-Girls out on the floor
Jack master Dick-Jack the Bass/Dick

Blue:
Mr. Lee-I can't forget

Green:
Marshall Jefferson-House Music Anthem
Sleezy D-I've lost control

Hope this helps,
.pr

[DADDYWICK]

I DID A LITTLE SEARCHING IN MY TRAX COLLECTION AND I CAME ACROSS....

CERTAINLY...LE NOIZ...BLACK LABEL WHITE WITTING
I'M SCARED...LE NOIZ...BLACK LABEL, WHITE WRITTING
JACK THE DICK... JACKMASTER FUNK...BLACK LABEL, WHITE WITTING
FUNKIN WITH THE DRUMS AGAIN...FARLEY...ORANGE LABEL, WHITE WRITTING
XXX TRACKS COMPILTAION....WHITE LABEL, RED WRITTING
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[Martin Red]

Larry Sherman may have been wanting to spread colours so people could make rainbows in their collections, nah ! he was just tight withn money !

[Red D]

I love these Chicago trax stories :D

Pure chaos, jacking music, my kinda thing!

RD

['Magic' Juan]

Originally posted by Red D:
I love these Chicago trax stories :D

Pure chaos, jacking music, my kinda thing!

RDWord!

[imported_Chr_stopher]

All of the Trax records that I have are red.

I just bought an original sealed copy of No Way Back by Adonis and it was red.

C-

[2121]

one i'm hunting for is the light blue label of Sweet D: Do Do It.

[Walter M. Jones]

Most of mine are red exept for Jack Master Funk "Jack the Bass"(Black) and Jungle Wonz "The Jungle"(Green). Now I do have my favorite comp,House Hallucinates. Remastered by who else but the bassmaster himself,Herb Powers Jr! I was so annoyed with the bass fading in and out on "Acid Trax" till that comp came out on Vendetta records. That Maurice single came out on Vendetta as well. I was always confused about that. I guess it was one of those Sherman buisiness deals with A&M records. Peace,Walter.

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by Christopher L. Aquilo:
All of the Trax records that I have are red.

I just bought an original sealed copy of No Way Back by Adonis and it was red.

C-Chris,the original No Way Back is black.You have a second run pressing.The first release I remeber being red is Ride the rythym.I actually have a copy of the Jungle that is black.I also have the green one.That also was the first pressing color.

Most early Trax releases were black.The early pressings had the Trax logo sideways.

[G]

Originally posted by socratez:
Does that mean that all releases have randomly chosen lable colors?????
t

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Placid:
i mailed larry sherman, he simply said he pressed em with whatever colour ink he had to hand

i have some blue ones,green,orange were the original pressings All my orange ones were good quality)and red obviously</font>[/QUOTE]would appear that way, i'veon ly got red ones

[Drrtynewyork]

if any trax record has a BARCODE is definitely a repress ;)

[jimmymack-2000]

Most of my Trax collection are represses, except for Jungle Wonz "Bird In A Gilded Cage" (white label with red writing) and Virgo "Free Yourself" (black label, white writing).

A question: did Trax ever issue promo copies, or was management too cheap? It would be hard to tell if you had a real "white label" with Trax, wouldn't it?

[imported_Chr_stopher]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
Most of my Trax collection are represses, except for Jungle Wonz "Bird In A Gilded Cage" (white label with red writing) and Virgo "Free Yourself" (black label, white writing).

A question: did Trax ever issue promo copies, or was management too cheap? It would be hard to tell if you had a real "white label" with Trax, wouldn't it?I've gotten trax promo's they have a stamp that says "copy" on it

['Magic' Juan]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
Most of my Trax collection are represses, except for Jungle Wonz "Bird In A Gilded Cage" (white label with red writing) and Virgo "Free Yourself" (black label, white writing).

A question: did Trax ever issue promo copies, or was management too cheap? It would be hard to tell if you had a real "white label" with Trax, wouldn't it?I think the only "white label" Trax record I have is a copy of the Jesse Velez LP: Super Rhythm Tracks (white label, black letters). I bought it off a friend, but I am not sure if it is an original or not.

They also released some white labels with red writing which were NOT originals, but look it (Trax U Lost is one of them). Peace!

magic_juan smile.gif

[Placid]

i got a promo of jungle wonz and virgo tracks.. they just stamped them with promo...

[Placid]

hmmm could talk about classic chicao house and acid all day....
hang on a minute... i do smile.gif

[Red D]

Originally posted by Placid:
hmmm could talk about classic chicao house and acid all day....
hang on a minute... i do smile.gif :D you do need to come to Belgium, we'll talk 'jack' all weekend!

RD

[AC]

Well...I started this thread one year ago! TRAX never die!!!!!

AC

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[Martin Red]

Originally posted by AC:
Well...I started this thread one year ago! TRAX never die!!!!!

AC

smile.gif This one should be saved.

graemlins/thumbsup.gif REVIVAL !

[djmarbll]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Christopher L. Aquilo:
All of the Trax records that I have are red.

I just bought an original sealed copy of No Way Back by Adonis and it was red.

C-Chris,the original No Way Back is black.You have a second run pressing.The first release I remeber being red is Ride the rythym.I actually have a copy of the Jungle that is black.I also have the green one.That also was the first pressing color.

Most early Trax releases were black.The early pressings had the Trax logo sideways.</font>[/QUOTE]So most of Trax recordings I have must be the second pressing. They're all red except my Marshall Jefferson (Move Your Body), which is black. The second pressings must have come out very soon after the original because mine have the same year as the originals 1986-1989. And all my Trax logos are sideways, whether they're red or black.

['Magic' Juan]

I think most original pressings are red, but the paper quality is cheap compared to the represses. I also have a few originals that seem to have 3 or 4 labels on top of one another. What was that all about? I won't even go there concerning vinyl quality ....

magic_juan

[Jamie 3:26]

Naw Marbil,if you got them when they came out,you have originals.Anything after 88,is repressed,that's concerning the classics.

The first red label I can recall would be Adonis-We're rockin down the house.

['Magic' Juan]

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['Magic' Juan]

**OOPS**

double post

magic_juan :rolleyes:

[ July 23, 2003, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: Magic Juan ]

[SMOOTH87]

That first virgo trax with a blue background and grey letters. This was just beat tracks. Was this a trax release or something else?? It never had a label name on it.